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Sat, 19 Jan 2008

20080119

  • Distance: 13,3km
  • Temps: 85mn
    • Maison
    • Chemin des chaudes vallees
    • Chemin du Vivier
    • Chemin de Villeneuve à la Mauldre
    • Rue de l'Echiqiuer
    • Chemin de la Vallee
    • La Richarderie
    • Montée vers ancienne RN12
    • Passerelle sur RN12
    • Petit tour dans forêt de Ste-Apolline
    • SPA
    • Retour passerelle et descente rue de plaisir
    • Chennevières
    • Eglise de Jouars
    • Remontée par les Mousseaux

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20080109

  • Distance: 15km
  • Temps: ?mn
    • Maison
    • Gare Verrière (3.5km)
    • (train)
    • Gare Meudon
    • Onera (4km)
    • et retour...

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20080117

  • Distance: 15km
  • Temps: ?mn
    • Maison
    • Gare Verrière (3.5km)
    • (train)
    • Gare Meudon
    • Onera (4km)
    • et retour...

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[sports] Streif
Mausefalle, Karusellkurve, Steilhang, Brückenschuss, Alte Schneise, Seildamsprung, Lächenschuss, Oberhausberg, Hausbergkante, Zielschuss (ach mein Gott!) and the terrible Zielsprung.

After last week's Lauberhorn downhill, today was Hahnenkamm's downhill race in Kitzbühel (Austria). Even though I slightly prefer the Wengen race, Die Streif is one of the scariest racest of the Ski World Cup.

Great spectacle today again, however saddenned by Scott Mc Carthy's terrible accident on the Zielsprung. We don't have news yet but I cross fingers for him.

Today, Didier Cuche won the race wonderfully, just before lastweek's winner, the tireless Bode Miller.

Again another great ski week-end, really.

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How many known human languages are there?
Tricky question, isn't it?

Indeed, according to the ISO 639-3 standard which finally became an official ISO standard in 2007, there are 7696 different languages, including extinct, ancient, historic, and constructed languages.

Of course, this may become a very debated discussion about what constitues a "language". Let's give the guidelines used by SIL International, who was designated by ISO as the official maintenance agency for ISo-639:

There is no one definition of "language" that is agreed upon by all and appropriate for all purposes. As a result, there can be disagreement, even among speakers or linguistic experts, as to whether two varieties represent dialects of a single language or two distinct languages. For this part of ISO 639, judgments regarding when two varieties are considered to be the same or different languages are based on a number of factors, including linguistic similarity, intelligibility, a common literature, the views of speakers concerning the relationship between language and identity, and other factors. The following basic criteria are followed:

  • Two related varieties are normally considered varieties of the same language if speakers of each variety have inherent understanding of the other variety (that is, can understand based on knowledge of their own variety without needing to learn the other variety) at a functional level.
  • Where spoken intelligibility between varieties is marginal, the existence of a common literature or of a common ethnolinguistic identity with a central variety that both understand can be strong indicators that they should nevertheless be considered varieties of the same language.
  • Where there is enough intelligibility between varieties to enable communication, the existence of well-established distinct ethnolinguistic identities can be a strong indicator that they should nevertheless be considered to be different languages.
So, we (iso-codes package maintainers) now have to update that part of our package and buy a big bunch of aspirin to people who will work on translating this.

Moreover, contrary to all other such standards (3166 for country names, old 639-2 for languages, 15924 for language script names), there is no bloody official *French* version, so even the French translator has to work. Gues who this was until now? :-)

To end this blog entry, let's ask a funny question to the readers (no, comments not allowed on my blog, I'm lazy, so answers by mail or in your blogs): what is the country in the world which as the highest number of languages listed in ISO 639-3?

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