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Way before Debian, Launchpad bug tracking system just reached 1 million bugs reported with one "bug" reported against Edubuntu basically mentioning it should invade schools.

What to say about this?

Hard without being harsh towards my friends working in the Ubuntu "world", indeed. Still, I really think that here, too much noise kills signal and the LP BTS is often hardly usable.

I counted up to 217 bugs reported against samba4 (which is, after all, not so widely used yet) just because it apparently has upgrading issues between pre 12.04 versions of Ubuntu and Oneiric. It indeed seems that some automated bug reporting is now active and whenever a user encouters an upgrade issue with a package, a bug is being reported. I guess this is somehow an opt-in system (I hope so..:-)) but the default is very clearly using it.

This feature is apparently what caused the recent bump in number of bugs reported in LP, making them even less useful, particularly to Debian package maintainers. I'm sure there are tools to help dealing with that and I was already answered that work is in progress to change this (and use a dedicated website for such reports or something like this). But, still, that seems to be the scary side of popularity...the very same popularity that is slowly but constantly hiding the work we're doing in Debian to indirectly make Ubuntu popular.

(moving to more general concerns)

I know that things are not all black or all white, but it always saddens me to feel that slowly....but, again, constantly, more and more people tend to forget that Debian is behind Ubuntu, is the ground on which it is built and Ubuntu wouldn't exist without it. When doing work, a human need is to get reward for it...and we are getting less of it...slowly, but constantly.

Don't take me wrong. I have many friends working directly for Ubuntu. Some paid by Canonical for this. Some really involved up to "top level" (yes, including the very very top level even if I killed him once). I don't want to throw offense on them. I don't even know if they can do something about what I'm expressing below. I would just have them (and others) know.

Let's take an example. I recently activated a few languages in D-I (Burmese, Tibetan, Uyghur). I'm happy with that, this is something I'm doing for 8 years now. But all these new translators were indeed only interested in one thing : "have Ubuntu translated in their language". No offense intended, but they didn't really care about *Debian* being translated in their language. I think that some didn't even know what Debian is.

In the same field, I am more and more "fighting" to keep the level of translation completeness in Debian (see my regular spa^W reports). In some way, I still succeed, but the price to pay is more and more and more personal investment and work. That's still working for the strong set of languages we support. That works much less for most others. When someone "disappears" (or just switches to some other priorities), it's more and more difficult to find someone else popping up.

And, for the "strong set", something else is happening : work duplication. There are "strong" French, German, Italian, whatever, l10n teams in Debian.....and there are similar teams for Ubuntu. And, mostly, those do not really work together.

And sometimes, this is kinda discouraging. So, seeing the explosion happening on what is, whatever we think or write, the "other side", is not somethnig that can make one entirely happy. And this is why I won't celebrate Launchpad's millionth bug report.

Particularly when I see that millionth bug report not even ack'ing that this Edubuntu marvel is based on the grounds set by some pionneers many years ago in a few schools in Norway (hello, Petter and others).

Yeah, sometimes sad. To balance this, let's release wheezy and have millions of people benefit from it without even knowing.

Hey, thanks, Peter for the hint!

Never heard of that option until you blogged about it. So, now I'm also ready to "tar taf", "tar xaf", "tar caf"..:-). Harder for me than you because I was used to "tar tfz" or "tar tfj"..:-)

And I suspect that "tar taf" is prone to typos...we'll see.